Ken:
My guest today is Preston Dennett, he is an expert on unidentified flying objects and unidentified submerged objects and the author of several popular books.
Would you give my readers some insight into what got you interested in this field?
Preston Dennett:
Well actually I grew up very skeptical of ufos and pretty much everything paranormal. It was in 1986, when I heard a report on the news of a sighting in Alaska. I didn't believe it for a second. I thought this guy, the pilot, was hallucinating, hoaxing, misperceiving, I just didn't believe it but I made the mistake of asking my family and friends what they thought about this ridiculous report. That is when I got a real shock. I found out that my brother and his two friends had chased a ufo in their car, across the valley here where I live. I found out that my sister-in-law and her two friends had seen three ufos hovering over Van Nye's Air Force Reserve Base. They were just large, orange globes of light. Later on that year, she seems to have had an encounter with what appears to be a typical gray type E.T. It was described as short, large head, big eyes, pretty much your standard encounter with a gray type E.T. My other sister-in-law was also having encounters. People at work, where I work as a book keeper, I mentioned it there and two people came up to me and started to describe their encounters. One of them has had missing time. A ufo followed them home from the library and they lost about an hour of time, which they could not account for. Another friend had a missing time encounter as well. So it is pretty much hit home for me and I got interested and starting reading books and pretty much began interviewing people right away and writing about it and one thing led to another and it pretty much now has taken over my life. I am not complaining, I am very much enjoying studying the subject. Once it gets a hold of you, it is pretty hard to extricate yourself from the subject.
Ken:
Well I know, I have been interested in it for probably a lot longer than you, because I am a lot older than you. It sounds like you live in a real hotspot.
Preston Dennett:
You know, I think perhaps that's true, well I know it is, because California turns out, according to the National UFO Reporting Center, it does have more encounters reported than any other state by at least twice as much. I think that Washington is second.
Ken:
Please tell us what subjects you are the most interested in, I see that you have written several books on different subjects?
Preston Dennett:
Yeah, it started with ufos, but I started asking the witnesses if anything else strange had happened to you, have you had any other strange experiences? A lot of them started telling me about ghost encounters. I was skeptical of ghosts too. I actually had seen by mother's ghost after she died. This was in 1984. I didn't believe it, even as I was watching her ghost, I just assumed that I was hallucinating, even though I have never taken hallucinogenics and never hallucinated, but there she was in bold color, a full color apparition. I just saw her for a few seconds, maybe thirty seconds at most, before she faded away. That is how it all sort of began. I found out that a lot of people were reporting ghosts as well as other experiences, like out of body experiences, dreams which come true and a whole wide variety of paranormal experiences. I knew this people weren't lying, some of them were my family and friends.
UFO Over East River In New York
Photo Source: Preston Dennett
Ken:
In a way you are a lot like me. I am talking about your varied interests in different subjects. Do you feel that there might be some connection between any of the subjects that you are interested in?
Preston Dennett:
I think that there is, what exactly is the connection, I am not sure. There are several cases that I have, where somebody will see a ufo and then they suddenly have an outbreak of poltergeist activity or visa versa, so it seems to me that there is some sort of a relationship there. I have asked a lot of the witnesses what they thought, why are they seeing ghosts as well as ufos? They have these huge storm of experiences some times.
Ken:
You know there is a theory on that, I don't know if you know about it? It states that it is something to do with the propulsion of ufos that causes people to have hallucinations, if they are in a certain area when there is a ufo above them. Have you ever heard that?
Preston Dennett:
No I haven't, I haven't heard that theory, but I have heard a lot of different theories.
Ken:
Do you believe that ufos and usos, that is unidentified flying objects and unidentified submerged objects are the same vehicles and the only difference is that when a ufo goes into the water it becomes a uso?
Preston Dennett:
Yeah I think that you are absolutely right and that these objects go in and out of the water quite easily actually. Considering how vast our oceans are, we are just now becoming aware of how much they are using them as sort of a place to hide and to maneuver around in and rest while they are not flying around in our skies. I think that a lot of them are coming from various undersea bases, which may sound startling, but I really think that there is a lot of activity going on in our underwater areas and certainly off the coast of California here. My goodness, I started receiving reports immediately when I started investigating, back in 1986. Since then it has just snowballed. I have got probably over one hundred reports of usos, right off the coast here in the Santa Catalina Channel, so I think that there is something definitely going on there.
Ken:
I'm asking the next question, because I have to wonder why we are so interesting to aliens, if indeed they are observing us? What exactly do you believe about the capabilities of humans. Do you think that we have untapped resources and that maybe our brains are capable of far more than we suspect?
Preston Dennett:
Oh absolutely. That is probably one of the reasons that E.Ts are so interested in us. One of the things that kept me away from the whole field, was the fact that E.Ts look so much like humans. They've got eyes, nose, mouth, two arms, two legs, they are basically humanoid, which I think raises a lot of questions of our own origins and our own identify. Who we are and what our relationship is with these E.Ts? I think that yes, we do have great capabilities that we have only begun to tap, such as astral projection, levitation, teleportation, precognition. All of these are abilities that I think are natural human abilities, which are being woken up or ignited a lot by people who are having contacts. So many abductees are also experiencing such a wide variety of paranormal experiences, because that have been woken up to a certain extent.
Ken:
I believe that the most definitive case for usos is the Shag Harbor case. Do you agree with that and would you tell my readers about it?
Preston Dennett:
Oh the Shag Harbor case is incredible. That is the case where up in Canada... That is where many, many, people actually observed at least one ufo...I think that there was two, which came swooping down and landed in the harbor and actually sunk down and the navy came and made this big long search for them and apparently did find them. Both objects eventually moved away. It is an amazing case with not only support by witnesses, but by some government documents. Yeah it is a really incredible case.
Ken:
Do you think that all ufos are piloted by extraterrestrials?
Preston Dennett:
No I wouldn't be that presumptuous. In fact I have had some military people, I guess you would call them whistle blowers, come up to me and say that a large portion of the ufos that we are seeing are in fact us piloting them. I don't know how true that is? I think that is probably true around some military bases, like Edward's Air Force Base or other military bases. I think that twenty percent of the things that people are seeing, may be in fact our own, but as far as the rest, I think that they are piloted by extraterrestrials, because I can not imagine that our military is going to test pilot these craft by chasing cars down the road, landing in people's back yards, hovering over people's homes and lighting up the entire interior with these huge beams of light and just putting on these gigantic displays over major city centers like Phoenix, Arizona, for example. or Gulf Breeze or the Hudson Valley area or Topanga Canyon. I think that most of them have E.Ts inside and I think that is supported by the fact that when people see these things land, humans are not what are getting out of them, it's these small, little, gray type E.Ts, at least for the most part. I have talked to a wide variety of people that have seen E.T. types, such as a praying mantis. It is mostly the gray type. Some people told me that they have seen humanoids. Total human looking. E.Ts, so I don't know, it gets complicated.
Ken:
There have been many different shapes of ufos and usos reported over the last 60 or 70 years or so. Do you think that this indicates that different races are visiting the Earth?
Preston Dennett:
Oh God, that is a great question. It is one of the things that has really frustrated me with my research. Why are there so many different shapes of ufos and usos and for that matter, E.Ts as well? We don't have any report really of people encountering one E.T. and one ufo and then later encountering the same E.T. and the same ufo. There is not a lot of that, it is all individuals, which doesn't make any sense to me, there has to be some overlapping there. There are very few cases where people in different areas report seeing the very same object. I don't know what that means. I speculate that there is several different races, I don't think that it is necessarily hundreds, but it could be. I guess that differences in E.T. craft are kind of like our own vehicles, I mean that we have sports cars, we have SUVs, we have trucks and station wagons, I imagine that it is a lot like that. Again I am speculating at that point, that is a good question, I don't know the answer to that and it is very frustrating to me.
Ken:
Have you ever seen or heard of a cylindrical uso being reported?
Preston Dennett:
Oh umm, a cylindrical uso. I am sure there is one out there if you were to scan through the reports, but off hand, I can't say that I have.
Ken:
I haven't either, I couldn't recall one.
Preston Dennett:
That is interesting., now you are intriguing me, I am going to have to go back to the reports and figure that out. Usos seem very much like ufos to me. These objects are not only seen coming in and out of the water, but into solid land. One gentlemen I spoke with, who was driving through Fresno, in the dessert with his friends, they saw what they thought was a 747 coming in to crash land in front of them on the highway. There was no other cars at the time, when suddenly these two bright lights, that's what it looked like, came swooping down and actually turned and went into the ground. It appeared as if the ground opened up for a second, but he couldn't really tell, they just disappeared right into the ground. People see objects coming out of the ground as well.
UFO Over Yacht In Santa Monica
Photo Source: Preston Dennett - Photographer Young Chyren
Ken:
Do you think that with these different types of craft could be from different races at different stages of technology?
Preston Dennett:
That is entirely possible. In fact there was a wave of sightings in the 1890s called the Airship Wave, which didn't involve your usual high tech ufos or sleek flying saucer shapes. These were very much like blimps and even had propellers and things like that and they gave off engine noises. It appeared that these were not humans. Certainly no one has ever come forward and said that I was responsible for these airship sightings. Yeah, it does seem that there is some technological differences in these ufos as well. Some disappear very quickly, it is hard to say, it is really hard to say. If we study the crashed ufos, I am sure the government does have, this would all be much clearer.
Ken:
Are you aware that the U.S. Government has been experimenting with using helium in heavier than air craft? I bring this up because some believe that they have built a triangular craft that can cruise silently at very low altitudes and it may have a pulse jet engine for quick acceleration and this fits the black triangular craft sightings that have been reported all over the country. Do you think that the black triangular craft being reported could belong to the U.S. military?
Preston Dennett:
I hesitate to say that yes, because it has been very wide spread and people have been seeing these triangular craft for years and years. Over the Hudson Valley area, I find it hard to believe that our government would be testing these triangular craft and basically, scaring the wits out of people. On the other hand, I have heard recently that we do have a stealth blimp. I do know for a fact that we do have a lot of technology that is being suppressed, or hidden and that we do have these craft, but on the other hand, it is my understanding that we are still having a lot of trouble reverse engineering these craft and that there are some craft that we can't even open. We can't get inside of the craft that we are in possession of and we still have not learned how to fly them into outer space, although we can fly them to a certain extent. This is all second hand information.
Ken:
Why do you think that we are experiencing so many ufo sightings lately?
Preston Dennett:
You know, I think that there is an escalation of this phenomena. If you go back in history, through all the records, through all the historical records, you don't have anything like we are experiencing now. It seems to really have exploded in the 1940s, pretty much coinciding with the atomic age and I think that is the real connection and that is why there is so much activity, in modern times at least. In the forties, even then we had only distant sightings. In the fifties ufos started landing, we had radar return reports and we started seeing humanoids. In the sixties and seventies the abduction reports started pouring in like crazy. It really became apparent that was the central focus of these E; T. visitations. It just continued on into the eighties and nineties and now we are seeing these large sighting over major city centers, as I mentioned, like Gulf Breeze, Hudson Valley, Phoenix, Arizona. Belgium has a huge wave. These are all pretty recent waves. I think that the E.T. activity is escalating. I think that they are putting on, what pretty much amounts to a publicity campaign. They are trying to be noticed, they are trying to announce their presence, so to speak, without actually landing on the White House lawn they practically did in the 1950s, twice. What did we do, we chased after them with jets, we shot at them and basically had a very hostile reaction. I think that it is our own prejudices that are keeping us from having open official contact.
Ken:
Well you know that some say the reason that they are so interested in us is not only because of the atomic age, but because of the computer age and that they believe that we as humans are about to improve the human race.
Preston Bennett:
Yeah, you know that I have heard that, but there is a lot of evidence that a lot of the technology that we have, especially with computers, did come from crashes like Roswell, at least according to Colonel Corso who's reputation is pretty much impeccable and several other people.
Ken:
Well a lot of people don't agree with his book, I have to tell you.
Preston Bennett:
It was one of the few best selling books, I do agree with it, I think it's corroborated by a lot of other people who are now coming out of the woodwork, saying very much the same thing.
Ken:
A lot of people think that Texas instrument invented the processor, the CPU.
Preston Bennett:
Yeah, you know I couldn't say for sure, but I found the book very impressive really. I don't think that it has anything in it that is going against what a lot of other people are saying.
Ken:
No, one of the reasons that many people are not crazy about the book is that it doesn't have very many references in the back.
Preston Bennett:
Right, right. It is a shame that he wrote it so late in life. As I said a lot of people are saying that type of thing. I think that the evidence that we do have of these crashed ufos is pretty good, not only the stories out of Area 51, but pretty much every state. There are some stories of crashed ufo activities and military cover ups.
Ken:
Do you believe that there have been alien abductions of humans?
Preston Dennett:
Alien abductions of humans? Oh absolutely. You know I was very skeptical of that, getting info ufo research. It is one thing to claim to have seen a ufo and another thing to claim to have been taken on board. I heard a quote from J. Allen Hynek, as I am sure you know is the father of modern ufology. He apparently told someone else that one in forty people have been abducted and taken onboard a ufo. I thought to myself, no, no, no, that's way too high, way too high. Then I thought to myself, you know what, I know forty people, I must have at least forty people within my circle of family, friends and coworkers. This is when I started researching. I asked everyone I knew, I flipped them that question of what do you think of ufos and have you had any unusual experiences with them? I got a lot of strange looks and a few skeptical laughs, but one by one these people started coming forward and telling me of these incredible encounters. I didn't have to ask forty people actually, I asked less than that and I found five people that pretty much fit the pattern of an abductee or claim to have actually been taken on board. I think that it is actually pretty common.
Ken:
Dr. Roger Leir, I am not sure if you are familiar with him?
Preston Dennett:
I am, yeah.
Ken:
Okay, he has removed some objects from people that were embedded in their bodies and when they were found, they had not only attached themselves to nerves, but were not rejected by the body. Do you think that some people have been tagged, like we tag animals when we study their habits?
Preston Dennett:
Absolutely. I think implants..... What he is doing is remarkable, pioneering research and I am glad that there are some other people doing it now. I talked to many people who claim to have been taken onboard and undergone what they felt was an implant procedure. In many cases they could point to a scar, or some sort of object and these things are appearing on MRI scans and on X-Rays. It is remarkable evidence actually. People always ask me what are these implants for? Are they mind control or are they tracking us like animals? I have to say yeah, that probably to a certain extent, there is some of that, but I have talked to abductees, who were told by the E.Ts, what the purpose for their implants were. One lady told me that the E.Ts told her that the purpose of the implant was to measure the level of pollution in her body, because there is so many toxic elements going around in our atmosphere and in our water, that they are very concerned about what we are doing to our bodies and that they are measuring our level of pollution, using these things. Another person was told that it was to boost her immune system. I think that this is important to say, because there are some positive reasons for these alleged implants.