Ken, Webmaster of About Facts Net and Interviewer
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Anonymous Guest and expert on the Apollo Missions
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Ken:
Do you think that we might already have bases on the moon and if so why?
Guest:
I don't know if we have them, I am pretty certain that they do exist. I don't know why they were there, but this brings us back to sprinkling in a little bit of truth with disinformation and low quality footage which we have yet to talk about, the Clementine footage provided by the US Navy that clearly blurs out specific imagery from the lunar surface, with no logical explanation as to why they are doing that.
Ken:
I think that we better let our listeners know what Clementine is.
Guest:
Clementine was a satellite that was commissioned, I believe by, the Department of Defense through the US Navy that sent the satellite to take imagery of the lunar surface. You can go, I don't know the exact web address, you can go to the Clementine website, through a Google search. You can actually enter any longitude, latitude you want on the lunar surface and you get images as high as kilometer to 1 pixel I believe. If you want to take it a step further you can do another search for anomalous imagery with Clementine, you get the exact coordinates and you can pull the images yourself and you can clearly see what looks to be towers and bases that are completely blurred out from the picture.
Ken:
It has been said by some very qualified people that we are really about 50 to 100 years ahead in military technology from where most of us believe we are. Do you believe this and if you do, then why do you think that we had to fake the Apollo Landings?
Guest:
I tend to believe it and again I don't believe that the entire Apollo program was faked. I believe that there is tons of misinformation sprinkled in with the truth and if they were to use top secret technology, possibly non terrestrial technology, that might explain why they have to use fraudulent footage to convince the American people that it was the current state of the art technology of the time that truly got us there.
Ken:
Referring to altering photos which we talked about a little while ago, why do you think that NASA is altering photos of the Moon and Mars?
Guest:
I believe that they feel that they know best. I believe that knowledge is power and I believe that they know things that they believe that we should not know. In fact there is a very good message board, not to plug another website, that does have a lot of the answers and if any reader is interested it will definitely set them on the right path to researching this.
Ken:
You can plug any website you want.
Guest:
I don't have the exact address, if you Google the term Pravda Forum, you will get to this Pravda message board, where there is currently a 391 page debate about the Apollo moon landings.
Ken:
Well Pravda is a very famous Russian newspaper.
Guest:
Well it actually says on the website that they are not connected with the Russian newspaper.
Ken:
That is strange.
Guest:
Yes.
NASA Apollo 11 Photo
Ken:
Have we been lied to about the capabilities of the space shuttle and it is capable of a far greater range and speed than we think?
Guest:
I don't believe that we have been lied to and that the space shuttle actually brought us backwards, technologically speaking. I think that a lot of people know that it was flawed from the beginning. Here was a device that was supposed to reach orbit on its own and immediately they had to add booster rockets increasing the risk and potential for problems. The space shuttle quite frankly is a terrible piece of machinery and they could have done a lot better.
Ken:
I agree with you on that, it has 1 chance in 200 of blowing up every time they launch it, did you know that?
Guest:
I didn't know that number, but yet we had 6 Apollo missions go 240,000 miles and back without a hitch.
Ken:
Well there was one hitch. One got to the moon, everyone almost died and they made it back inside the LEM, which was inside of the rocket.
Guest:
Have you ever seen the actual pictures of the damage to that shuttle, I mean to that ship?
Ken:
I saw some photos, yeah.
Guest:
There are claims out there that those are just publicity images of the command module with one of the panels taken off. If you look at the images again you will see it is a square cut out and not some kind of random damage.
Ken:
Many scientists complained that NASA had put out photos of the Face on Mars that had over 80% of their data missing. For example a black and white photo that was supposed to have 256 shades of gray had only 16 and therefore could not have given us the correct representation of the face, if it existed. Do you think that NASA is not only altering photos but leaving data out and even distorting images to keep us from knowing the truth?
Guest:
I believe 100% yes and taking it one step further, why is NASA providing black and white images?
Ken:
Well that's a good question. I don't have the answer to that, but it might be that they were using black and white film for a specific reason. I don't know.
Guest:
I mean if you take it back to Project Apollo you could go to any of the myriad of websites that provide hundreds and hundreds of images of the Apollo missions and what is very strange is that as you look through these different film magazines, sometimes you will see black and white images mixed in.
Ken:
In the old days black and white was able to capture more detail than color, so on that I think that I will give them the benefit of the doubt. It may be that they felt that the color film could not capture as much of a representation of the object as could black and white.
Guest:
I could see that. I tend to think that the reason that they are doing this is, I don't know the best way to explain this, basically make it so that the viewer can not see the contrast. For example if Richard Hoagland happens to be right and there is robotic remains on the lunar surface, if these robotic remains are different colors than the rocks, we are going to pick it up in 2 seconds in a color image. On a black and white image not so much. It is going to be a similar tint, a similar shade and you can pass it off as just more rocks in the foreground.
Ken:
It seems that if there is a conspiracy by NASA to keep information from the public, that other nations have to be part of it since they also have probes going to the moon and planets. Do you think that this is true?
Guest:
Not only do I think that it is true, I also believe that the recent Chinese space walk, I don't know if you are familiar with that, has almost been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is fraudulent. I say almost, because obviously nothing can be proven 100%. There clearly is problems with that video such as seeing what appears to be little water bubbles when they are supposed to be in deep space, or seeing a flag waving that the Chinese astronaut is holding that shouldn't happen without an atmosphere.
NASA Apollo 11 Photo
Ken:
I have heard that some photos are being taken when satellites are supposed to be experiencing down time and that we are never told about these photos. This information comes from different whistle blowers that worked for NASA and made this statement publicly. I have also heard that some photos that are taken are purposely taken at such angles to render them useless for examination. What do you think about all this?
Guest:
I think that this relates to the previous question that you had about the face and I believe NASA will do anything in its power to present a public image that doesn't seem to contain all the information that they have. For national security reasons I can understand withholding certain things, but when it comes to the exploration of outer space that should be for everybody. There should be absolutely no reason what so ever as long as its non military related to not let us the people view this material.
Ken:
A former NASA employee, Ken Johnson, has stated that he was ordered to destroy an original set of Apollo photos and felt so bad about it that he took them home. Why do you think that he was ordered to destroy such historical photos and do you believe that they showed structures on the moon as he claimed?
Guest:
I believe that there would only be 2 reasons that he would be asked to destroy them. Generally speaking there has to be either something incriminating or embarrassing to NASA in those photos. I think that the only two logical reasons that they would ask him to destroy them is that either they are proof of a hoax, or there is proof of ruins and things like that.
Ken:
So many times we have been told that new probes of Mars were going to produce spectacular photos and yet they were sub par. Do you think that this might be on purpose to hide something that the government doesn’t want us to know?
Guest:
I firmly believe that and just looking at technology today, we can all sit in our living rooms with 1080P high definition resolution and we are still getting grainy black and white images from NASA. There is absolutely no excuse for it what so ever.
Ken:
Why do you think it is, that some of the anomalies that were found in the Moon and Mars photos hasn’t brought greater interest among the public and an outcry for exploration?
Guest:
I tend to believe that NASA itself has a psychological arm to it. As I mentioned earlier, it tries to control public thinking. It is NASA itself that will put out these statements that people aren't interested in the space program and things like that to basically keep themselves under the radar. I believe that they do this on purpose and that it is not just the mainstream media. A perfect example is if you go to YouTube and look at any video on the moon hoax, while the videos themselves might not mean anything, while they might not even be correct in their analysis of the hoax, what is more interesting is reading the comments underneath. You will find hundreds and sometimes thousands of comments. Sometimes these comments are not from ordinary lay people. You can tell that these comments are scientific in nature, are from very well educated people. This is NASA controlling the public, that is my opinion.
Ken:
I am going to ask you something that I hadn't planned to ask you, but I think that you are probably going to know about it. The U.N. had secret meetings on UFOs that lasted 3 days. Have you heard about that?
Guest:
Yes.
Ken:
The meetings were exposed by admirals in the U.S. Navy, that wanted people to know what was going on. Do you think that a lot of leaks that have come out that we really can't trace are being put out by high authorities in the government that want people to know what is going on, but are trying to hide their identities?
Guest:
I could see it being possible. When you get to such high level top secret types of stuff, how could any of us know? In the end none of us have that kind of clearance so how could we know? The other side of the coin is, what if they come out on purpose and say this as some kind of misdirection? In the situation with the U.N., it does seem legitimate to me.
Ken:
Do you think that the Apollo astronauts have been brainwashed to prevent them from telling the truth about the Apollo landings as was stated in the book Dark Mission?
Guest:
Although I read Dark Mission cover to cover and enjoyed it thoroughly, this is one thing that I do not believe what so ever. I believe that all the astronauts are well aware of what they did and to bring it back to the theory that I am formulating based on evidence that I have, I believe that they did actually go to the moon, its how they got there and what they did that we actually don't know. The public face that was presented to us through all the imagery is mostly fraudulent. I think that the astronauts are well aware of this entire scenario and as usual they have been motivated not to talk about it.
Ken:
Do you think that any of the astronauts are mentally imbalanced at this point?
Guest:
We have all heard the story of Buzz Aldrin becoming an alcoholic after the moon landings and I don't know if you or the readers are aware that he was actually approached by someone that doesn't believe in Apollo and he punched the guy right in the face?
Ken:
Yeah, I am aware of it.
Guest:
Of course again on the other side of that coin the guy that approached him, Bart Sibrel, called him a liar and a coward. Is that justification to punch somebody in the face? I don't know. To answer the question, I don't know if I would say that they are mentally unbalanced, no.
Ken:
I didn't mean all of them, I meant any of them, because some people have said that Edgar Mitchell is mentally unbalanced. They is why I asked this question.
Guest:
Why would somebody say that Mitchell is mentally unbalanced?
NASA Apollo 11 Photo
Ken:
I think that it is because that in the last few years Mitchell has talked a lot about aliens and UFOs and things like that and I think that is why some people have an opinion that maybe through age or whatever, because he is 82 or 83 years old, that his brain has now been affected by something that would cause him to either remember the events wrong, or think that he saw things that he didn't see.
Guest:
It is a possibility, but again with some of the research that I have done I don't see the claims made by Edgar Mitchell being that far out there. Based on the people that I have dealt with on this subject I would tend to believe they they are creating this idea of Edgar Mitchell losing his mind.
Ken:
That makes sense.
Reports have come out that sometimes where a photo is put on the NASA website and something is found in the photo, they change the number of the photo and they substitute another photo, or they take the original photo down. Do you think that this is true?
Guest:
I can say that through hours, upon months, and now upon years of research, I have never experienced this. With that being said there are so many hundreds and hundreds of Apollo photographs that it is pretty difficult to keep track of the number system and if things have been changed. The best thing that I can recommend to prove this one way or the other, is to save the photos and compare them over time. Obviously I have tons of these photographs saved and I haven't seen the numbers change within the last year or so, but I know that this goes back a lot further than that.
Ken:
Oh yeah, there are a lot of people that complain about this constantly. There are some people that complain that they have photos that they have gotten off the NASA website that no longer exist.
Guest:
I have heard this as well, but again through my own research I have never experienced it. I wouldn't put it past them with all the other things that I have seen.
Ken:
Do you think that it is possible that aliens helped us land on the Moon?
Guest:
Inadvertently I would say yes. I don't think that aliens came out and helped us get to the moon. I am tending to believe that we used alien technology to get ourselves to the moon, whether it was in agreement with aliens or not.
Ken:
Well an interesting point to talk about is the transistor. I don't know how many people know this, but the invention of the transistor, the patent for it, goes way further back than Shockley who is credited with the invention. It goes back to maybe turn of the century. None of these transistors that were invented worked properly and all of a sudden Shockley came out with one that worked and a lot of people are saying that transistor was re-engineered from the crash at Roswell.
Guest:
I wasn't familiar with this. Do you know at what time period that Shockley had perfected that transistor"
Apollo Video From NASA
Ken:
I am trying to remember, I think ....., I don't want to give the wrong date here but I think it is maybe a year later than the Roswell crash, or two years later or something like that.
Guest:
It is very interesting, I wasn't aware of that.
Ken:
Let's see. I think that I got that wrong, I think it might be around 1954 or so, I would have to look it up, but its not that long after the Roswell crash.
Guest:
No. That would make sense to give them a few years to actually perfect it.
Ken:
How do you explain the famous photo of a UFO appearing outside the Apollo 11 capsule on its way to the Moon, if we didn’t go to the Moon?
Guest:
Well I certainly wouldn't the way Buzz Aldrin did on Larry King live, when he said it was part of the spent Saturn V booster, which was supposedly..., I might get the numbers wrong here, 60,000 miles away. That was the official explanation as to what that object was. I don't how to describe it, but to bring you back to the theory that I am currently formulating based on the evidence that I have, they really did go to the moon. It is how they got there and what they told us, the people and what they showed us the people, that is fraudulent, so it could very well be a UFO.
Apollo Video From NASA
Ken:
So in other words you are saying, if I have this right, that we were using advanced technology to get to the moon, but we were only showing the population ancient technology.
Guest:
Pretty much, because they had to prove ......, they had to live up to Kennedy's promise, they had to prove to the American people that they could accomplish this feat, but at the same time they couldn't tell the American people that with the current technology of the day that it was impossible.
Ken:
So let me see if I can take this a step further. Kennedy makes a speech saying that we are going to go to the moon in 10 years.
Guest:
Actually 8 years.
Ken:
He already knows that the technology exists.
Guest:
I don't know what Kennedy knows.
Ken:
But he might have known that the technology might have already existed and everything that was done from that point on was just to cover up the fact that we had the technology, because we were going there.
Guest:
Again from what I am seeing it looks like Kennedy made this promise based on technology of the day, because they were just coming out of the Gemini Project so we are proving that we can go into space, we can orbit the earth, humans can survive in low earth orbit. Kennedy just took us the natural step further and said that since we can survive this, let's go to the moon. He didn't realize that one of the big stopping points of this whole debate is the radiation factor and the Van Allen radiation belts.
Apollo Video From NASA
Ken:
You don't think that Kennedy knew something that we didn't know? Maybe that is why he made that statement? That is all I am getting at.
Guest:
It seems that he genuinely wanted to take that technology to the moon and it seems that it is just not possible.
Ken:
Is there anything else that you would like to talk about?
Guest:
That is pretty much it. In summary I would say that anybody that has an interest in this subject, really has to do their own research. They are going to have to get through a lot of ridicule on the subject. There is plenty of information on the Internet, but of course the name of this game is to filter out the garbage from the good information. I believe one of the tricks is to avoid NASA at all costs, the NASA website. If they are the source of the fraud, why would you go there for the research? I hinted earlier that you might want to utilize your freedom of information rights and check the different military websites and again plenty of other places. It is also interesting to talk to some of these people on the message boards, especially that bad astronomy website. These are NASA employees, you can see for yourself if you visit that site. There level of expertise is just too high for any layman. Again if anybody's interested they can do their own research and I wish them luck.
Apollo Video From NASA
Ken:
Well thank you very much, maybe one of these days we will do this again on another topic?
Guest:
Okay, thank you.
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