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Ken:

Our Guest Today is a lady that contacted About Facts Net. She had an alien implant removed from her body by the famous surgeon Doctor Roger Leir. I contacted Doctor Roger Leir to find out a little more about the object that was removed from her. The following interview was between myself and Doctor Leir and was taken in a restaurant and there is some background noise.

Questions to Doctor Leir About The Object

Ken:

What was the radio frequency of the object that you took out of her

Dr. Leir:

Yeah it was in the 30 megahertz range.

Ken:

30 megahertz, okay. (Same range as television audio and pagers)

How deep was it?

Dr. Leir:

It was between the muscle and the joint, in the toe.

Ken:

Would you say that is about a half inch deep?

Dr. Leir:

No not in the toe. We are probably talking about a quarter of an inch because there is not much tissue between the skin and the bone.

Ken:

Did it have the usually anti-rejection features?

Dr. Leir:

Yeah. There was no visible portal of entry and it was covered with a strange dark gray membrane and since I saw the original X-Ray that she had taken until the time that I took the final set of X-rays, the object had broken into several pieces.

Ken:

Oh that is unusual.

Dr. Leir:

Yes it was unusual and it was a good thing medical wise that she had it removed, because it could have penetrated the joint and then she would have been in a world of hurt and possible infection.

Ken:

Did it exhibit any of that movement when you went to take it out?

Dr. Leir:

No this one didn't have any movement. I only had one of those that I did. I know of only two. One is the one that I did and one is the one in Whitney Strieber's ear, he had a little piece of it removed.

Ken:

Was there anything to indicate that the material was not from earth?

Dr. Leir:

Not until we did the metallurgical analysis and then we found some isotopic ratios that were not earthly, an iron nickel ratio that we seem to find in meteorite specimens.

Ken:

Was the object magnetic?

Dr. Leir:

Yes, highly magnetic. It had a magnetic decay rate of approximately two weeks.

Ken:

Are you saying that in two weeks it was no longer magnetic?

Dr. Leir:

That is correct, lost its magnetic ability.

End Of Questions For Doctor Leir

Ken:

Our guest today will be known as Jane Doe.

I understand that you have turned down an interview with the Discovery Channel, so is this the first time that you have talked about your experience publicly?

Jane Doe:

It is.

Ken:

You have a medical background yourself I believe, could you tell us about it?

Jane Doe:

You mean my job description?

Ken:

Yes, I understand that you are a nurse.

Jane Doe:

Correct.

Ken:

The reason that I asked you this question, is that this might make you a little more aware of what was happening than most people.

Doctor Leir has informed me that the object that was removed from your body was giving off a radio signal. Were you aware of that?

Jane Doe:

No I was not.

Ken:

Had you gone to any other doctors to examine the object under your skin and if so, what did they tell you?

Jane Doe:

No I never went to another doctor.

Ken:

Had you spoken to any family members or friends about the object and what was the advice that they gave you?

Jane Doe:

Oh yes I told all my family members and they were just puzzled about what it was and how it gave off that radio wave. I don't understand it either.

Ken:

As is often the problem in these cases, people tend to ridicule others that are in these situations. Did you have a problem with anybody trying to ridicule you over this?

Jane Doe:

Oh no, not at all, because I am not the one that put it there. I don't know how it got there, I have no idea how it got there.

Ken:

Has anyone else in your circle of friends had a similar problem?

Jane Doe:

With the object, no not that I know of.

Ken:

What made you select Doctor Leir to go to?

Jane Doe:

Because I happened to see him on tv and he was talking about the aliens one morning and I knew that I had something in my foot and I didn't know what it was and I did have a dream about aliens when I was a teenager and I just kind of thought, my dream, something in my foot and I didn't know how it got there, so I wanted to contact him.

Ken:

I see and no other doctor ever took a look at it you say?

Jane Doe:

Correct.

Ken:

Did you ever feel that the object was doing something to your body?

Jane Doe:

I never really felt anything different, or strange, or anything like that. No.

Ken:

How did you notice that it was there?

Jane Doe:

Well one time I accidentally twisted my ankle and I went to the emergency room and they did an X-Ray. The X-Ray technician asked me if I ever had surgery on my foot and I said no. He said there is something there and I said I don't know I never had surgery on my foot and never remember an injury of any sort, so I don't know how it got there.

Ken:

Did they ever tell you what they thought it was in the emergency room?

Jane Doe:

No. He told me to go back to a doctor and have it examined and see what it was.

Ken:

How long do you think that you had it?

Jane Doe:

Oh God, I don't even know. I really don't know.

Ken:

In past discussions between Doctor Leir and myself, he told me that not only do these objects send out radio signals, but sometimes they move away from the surgeon's blade. Were you awake for the operation and did you feel the object moving under your skin?

Jane Doe:

I was awake but the area was....he numbed it up, he localized it, but I didn't feel it moving. No I didn't.

Ken:

Since you had this object in you, have you ever felt that you were being watched?

Jane Doe:

No, I never felt that.

Ken:

Many people that are involved with alien abductions also have implants taken out. While we were discussing your operation, it might go hand in hand with an abduction. Do you feel that you were ever abducted by aliens?

Jane Doe:

Well like I told Doctor Roger Leir, when I was a teenager, I must have been 15 or 16, I had this dream where I felt like I was running through a field and I remember this bright light coming down, a very bright light and inside this light was a hand coming to get me and I remember screaming and yelling and when I woke up, I guess I was still sleeping but there was like three gray alien heads in my bedroom window.

Ken:

Were you able to communicate with them?

Jane Doe:

The only thing that....I could not talk to them, but mentally they told me that they lived underneath the ground.

Ken:

So you feel that you were communicating with them telepathically?

Jane Doe:

Correct.

Ken:

What else did they tell you if anything?

Jane Doe:

That is the only thing that I was able to pick up.

Ken:

Could you describe what they looked like?

Jane Doe:

Oh yeah. They were like pear shaped, gray, black eyes.

Ken:

Their features, could you describe them a little more, like how big were their eyes for example?

Jane Doe:

They were big.

Ken:

What shape would you say they were?

Jane Doe:

They looked like maybe a.....you know how the avocados are dark black? They were shaped kind of like an avocado.

Ken:

Did they have mouths?

Jane Doe:

I did not see the mouth, no.

Ken:

How about their noses?

Jane Doe:

It was a real quick look and all I can remember is like the three gray heads and their eyes.

Ken:

This sounds like a description of what is typically know as a Grey. Are you familiar with that?

Jane Doe:

No.

Ken:

Well a Grey is supposedly the most prevalent of aliens on earth.

They said that they came from under the ground, but they didn't give you anymore information than that?

Jane Doe:

Right.

Ken:

So you didn't see a ship or anything of that nature?

Jane Doe:

No.

Ken:

Did they ever come back and speak to you?

Jane Doe:

No, not at all.

Ken:

Why do you think that you were singled out by them?

Jane Doe:

Well I know that my dad used to believe in aliens. I remember as little kids he would take us out and communicate with them. He would say what way do you want the shooting star to go and then I said to the left and then he would start by concentrating and we would be looking up in the sky and there it goes.

Ken:

You mean you actually saw something?

Jane Doe:

Oh yeah, just like a shooting star. My dad always referred to them as friends.

Ken:

Is it possible that your father had been abducted?

Jane Doe:

He never said anything.

Ken:

Did you know that abductions sometimes run in families? People have said that their parents were abducted, their grand parents, etc. etc. Several generations. I don't know if you are aware of that?

Jane Doe:

No I am not aware of that.

Ken:

Tell us how you believe that the implant was put under your skin. Do you have any idea at all?

Jane Doe:

How it was put there?

Ken:

Yeah, I mean did you feel any pain in your foot while your were asleep?

Jane Doe:

No.

Ken:

So you just woke up and it was there I guess?

Jane Doe:

Right. I never, never knew it was there. Never. If I hadn't twisted my ankle accidentally and had an X-Ray taken of my foot, I would have never known.

Ken:

I understand that you were the twelfth person to receive this operation. Did you ever speak to anyone else who had it?

Jane Doe:

No but it would be interesting to speak to them and hear their stories also.

Ken:

Well you never know, they might contact me the way you did after they hear this interview.

Jane Doe:

Oh fantastic, yeah.

Ken:

What did it feel like when you felt the aliens were coming for you? Could you expand on that a little more?

Jane Doe:

Well like I said, I went to bed and when I was sleeping, at that time in my sleep I just felt like I was running and that bright light and that hand coming down and just waking up.

Ken:

How old were you at that time?

Jane Doe:

I was at that time about 15 or 16 years old.

Ken:

Did you get any sense at the time of why aliens would be interested in us?

Jane Doe:

I don't know.

Ken:

Has having this object under your skin given you any abnormal symptoms or abilities and if so, did they disappear with its removal?

Jane Doe:

Well I know that I am super sensitive when somebody has something going on with them or something is going to happen to them I have that sense and I used to hate to have that feeling, because I didn't want to know what was going to happen to somebody. My mom said it was a gift and I need to pray for them. Like right now, a little while ago, somebody's name popped up, it was George, so I knew that I had to pray for a George. I don't know a George, I don't know who a George is, but I needed to pray for that person. I am just a very sensitive person and things just pop into my head. I have to pray for certain people.

Ken:

Did you feel this way before the implant?

Jane Doe:

Yes, I had a lot of things happen to me that I knew was going to happen and I would just pray about it.

Ken:

So do you still have this ability, you feel?

Jane Doe:

Not as good as it was before. It was really good before, now it's you know, not too (sensitive.)

Ken:

So you think the implant had something to do with that?

Jane Doe:

I don't know, I really don't know.

Ken:

Have you ever felt that someone was trying to communicate with you when you had the object under your skin, maybe when you were asleep or taking a rest or something like that?

Jane Doe:

No because I really don't dream, I don't remember ever dreaming about aliens after that time.

Ken:

Do you feel that your personality has changed since you were implanted?

Jane Doe:

No, I just feel that I try to help mankind. I am just out there to try and help and make....., you know because I am a nurse and I have a feeling for everybody.

Ken:

I understand.

Have you ever experienced missing time. In other words you seemed to lose time and you can't remember what you did during that period of time?

Jane Doe:

Not that I remember, no.

Ken:

That never happened to you?

Jane Doe:

Not that I remember.

Ken:

Did you ever consider going under hypnotism?

Jane Doe:

I considered it, but I kind of backed down, you know.

Ken:

Well you might find something out that might surprise you. (laughing)

Jane Doe:

(laughing) Maybe. I just might do it some day.

Ken:

Have you ever found any physical evidence of an alien visitation in your home?

Jane Doe:

No.

Ken:

Didn't you mention to me before that you found something on the window sill, or am I mistaken?

Jane Doe:

No it was the three aliens that were looking through the window, when I had my dream.

Ken:

Oh, but you didn't find any physical evidence?

Jane Doe:

No.

Ken:

Do you think that there is any chance that the implant that was removed might not have been implanted by aliens, but maybe a government agency for some reason?

Jane Doe:

I don't know, I don't know how it got there.

Ken:

Was there anything strange about the weather when you woke up?

Jane Doe:

It was raining that day.

Ken:

Aside from that there was nothing like very bad weather conditions like tornadoes, hurricanes, things like that?

Jane Doe:

No, not at all.

Ken:

As time goes by do you recall more about this incident or less?

Jane Doe:

No just the same. I still remember the dream. There are a lot of things that I can't remember, but I still remember the dream and the light. One other time I had seen a light when I was 8 or 10 years old. I remember the bright light coming through my bedroom window. It was just a light, that is all I remember, it was just a light.

Ken:

Was it an unnatural light, do you feel?

Jane Doe:

It was a very, very, very intense light. I remember keeping underneath the cover because I was afraid and the light was coming through the cover. It was like a blinding light.

Ken:

Was it daytime or nighttime?

Jane Doe:

It was nighttime.

Ken:

It was nighttime.

Did you hear any noise associated with that light?

Jane Doe:

No.

Ken:

You didn't feel any other sensations associated with it?

Jane Doe:

I just remember that it was a bright intense light. It was so bright that it was coming through the blanket.

Ken:

Is there anything else that you would like to add to this interview?

Jane Doe:

No I think that's about it.